--- title: The Change the Game Podcast | Employee Engagement description: Employee Engagement | The Change the Game Podcast for The Great Game of Business --- [![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2020/Home/GGOB%20logo%20(1).png) ](https://www.greatgame.com/) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/HamMenuBlack.png) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/CloseButton.png) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training ](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) - [Community Membership](https://www.greatgame.com/membership-purchase) - [Store](https://ggob.myshopify.com/) - [FAQ](https://www.greatgame.com/faqs) - [Become a Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/internal-coach) - [Have Us Speak at Your Event](https://www.greatgame.com/ggobspeakers) - [Trusted Partners](https://www.greatgame.com/trusted-partners) - [Search](https://www.greatgame.com/site-search) ## **![GGOB + 21 Hats-1](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png?width=250&height=81&name=GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png) **   ## **About Our Podcasts** Podcasts for entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders. These messages are brought to you directly from CEOs and business thinkers to help build healthier companies, better businesses, and better lives for both you and your employees.   ## [Developing Employees is as Important as Strategy](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode78) ![Jim Sliker and John Williams](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/_Gathering%202018/Speakers/logos/central%20states.png) Jim Sliker (CEO of Central States Manufacturing) and John Williams (Great GameTM Coach) talk with Steve Baker about strategic planning is a process, not an event, that developing people is as important as strategy, and outline the three-step plan to leadership success. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/9d9fe3d3-ae8e-4842-8258-fb58595b52d7.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/9d9fe3d3-ae8e-4842-8258-fb58595b52d7) ## [A Baby Boomer and Millennial Talk Competition](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode77) ![The Great Game™ Team](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/GGOB-logo-author.jpg) Jack Stack and Brandon Lockhart highlight the baby boomer vs millennial perspective on what is competition, teaching people how to win, and how do we handle the loss. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/4d28d116-8bd7-47fa-bc07-ac750bfe56f9.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/4d28d116-8bd7-47fa-bc07-ac750bfe56f9) ## [Unleashing Ownership Mentality](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode76) ![Prairie Capital Advisors](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Prairie_Logo_RGB.png) Tom DeSimone and Hillary Hughes, Prairie Capital Advisors, interview our very own Rich Armstrong on what is an ownership mentality? Is it created or taught? And what is the difference between an ESOP, private, and public company? [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/60d6e331-df71-4765-86fe-3e1ccca680e5.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/60d6e331-df71-4765-86fe-3e1ccca680e5) ## [Developing Financially Responsible Employees](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode75) ![Verity Homes](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/verity-home-green-black-logo.png) **Art Goldammer (Founder & CEO), Aaron Tackett (Chief People Officer) of Verity Homes, and Dave Scholten (GGOB Coach) **talk about their brand promise and core values and how breaking methodology creates a more fiscally responsible employee who has a deeper understanding of how every dollar spent impacts the bottom line. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/a0ccb1bd-b4c4-4d57-94f5-7222e98d7216.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/a0ccb1bd-b4c4-4d57-94f5-7222e98d7216) ## [Helping Your Team Understand Your Business](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode74) ![Chuck Monico](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Chuck%20Monico%20author%20photo.jpg) **Chuck Monico, Branch Manager at Ryan Lawn & Tree,** talks to Rich and Steve about the importance of learning, keeping it simple, and how teaching financial literacy to your team can help them ask better questions and be better team members. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/cf408abc-dbb1-4d3d-a0e2-bdf48589b8e6.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/cf408abc-dbb1-4d3d-a0e2-bdf48589b8e6) ## [ESOP Roundtable 4](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode71) ![The Great Game™ Team](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/GGOB-logo-author.jpg) This episode was recorded at a live roundtable event discussing the benefits and pitfalls of being an ESOP company. It is not required to be an ESOP company to enjoy the benefits of the Great Game of Businesses practice and principles, but they definitely pair well together. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/8efb000b-67c2-4546-81fb-a8109779a8c1.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/8efb000b-67c2-4546-81fb-a8109779a8c1) ## [Steve Baker's 2021 Book-A-Week Goal](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode70) ![Steve Baker, Vice President](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/2018%20Staff%20Photos/Steve%20Baker.jpg) **Steve Baker, Vice President at The Great Game of Business, **talks about his 2021 goal to read one book a week, how we turned his car into a classroom, and which of the 88 books he has consumed this year will make it to his 2022 to read it again list. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/51471f9f-8fc9-40ea-b355-42006a5deffc.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/51471f9f-8fc9-40ea-b355-42006a5deffc) ## [Involving Everyone in Your Company](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode69) ![Michael Kiolbassa](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/_Gathering%202018/emails/Michael%20Kiolbassa.jpg) **Michael Kiolbassa, President at Kiolbassa Smoked Meats, **describes how unconscious commitments were holding him back, how values-based leadership training put the organization on the right path, and how opening the books magnified the trust in his organization and unleashed creativity. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/e3280346-4a21-4420-9d25-4839e72838ef.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/e3280346-4a21-4420-9d25-4839e72838ef) ## [The Power of Purpose](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode66) ![Clark Gey](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Canva%20images/Canva%20Design%20DAEv56-4WUs.png) **Clark Gey, President of Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, **discusses how fairness and equality are not the same thing, why you should not read entitlements in your company, and the power of purpose. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/b3be23a3-9716-4471-9113-6e655543a057.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/b3be23a3-9716-4471-9113-6e655543a057) ## [Planning is Essential for Growth and Success](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode65) ![Casey Hildebrandt](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Canva%20images/Canva%20Design%20DAEvQgh8Lmg.png) **Casey Hildebrandt, Owner of Hildebrandt Tree Tech, ** tells Steve how being a Great Game company helped to calm the storm, built his confidence as a leader and allowed him to not carry the entire burden of the business alone. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/7eda06bf-40fa-405b-9937-deca4f893822.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/7eda06bf-40fa-405b-9937-deca4f893822) [All posts](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/all) [Next](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/tag/employee-engagement/page/2) ## About The Podcast ![GGOB + 21 Hats-1](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png?width=400&height=129&name=GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png) The Great Game of Business has partnered with [21 Hats](https://21hats.com/) to bring the 21 Hats Podcast to all entrepreneurs in The Great Game of Business community! Hosted by Loren Feldman, this podcast offers real-world business insight. Tune in to stay up to date on today's business issues, hear real stories about organizational challenges leaders are facing, and take away strategies CEOs are using in the business world today. When you subscribe, you'll receive a weekly email notification of this podcast. Plus, receive a message any time a new podcast episode is published on The Great Game of Business "Change the Game Podcast."   **Subscribe to Get notified about new episodes from 21 Hats and the Change the Game Podcasts!** [![GGOB Logo Footer](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Templates-2018/Home/temp/GGOB_Logo_Footer.png?width=465&name=GGOB_Logo_Footer.png "GGOB Logo Footer")](https://www.greatgame.com/) [Terms of Use](https://www.greatgame.com/terms) | [Privacy Policy](https://www.greatgame.com/privacy-policy)  Cookie Settings All trademarks, trade names or logos mentioned or used herein are the property of their respective owners.  Reference to any product or service by manufacturer, trade name, trademark or otherwise does not reflect any affiliation with the manufacturer or its endorsement of the products or services.  |  COPYRIGHT © 2026 THE GREAT GAME OF BUSINESS, INC.  All rights reserved. For over 40 years, The Great Game of Business™ has helped organizations reach their highest potential and value. Tapping into the universal human need to win, GGOB educates your people in the rules of business, rallies them around a common goal, empowers them to see and improve the score, and engages them by giving them a stake in the outcome. #### Quick Links #### The Great Game of Business 2401 E. Sunshine St. Springfield, MO 65804 [800.386.2752](tel:18003862752) [info@ggob.com](mailto:info@ggob.com) [**](https://www.facebook.com/greatgameofbusiness/) [**](https://twitter.com/Gr8GameBusiness) [**](https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-great-game-of-business/) [**](https://www.youtube.com/user/GreatGameofBusiness) [**](https://www.instagram.com/thegreatgameofbusiness/) ![](https://www.facebook.com/tr?id=263477480705198&ev=PageView&noscript=1) ![](https://px.ads.linkedin.com/collect/?pid=2040065&fmt=gif)