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title: The Change the Game Podcast | High-Involvement Planning™
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## **About Our Podcasts**

Podcasts for entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders. These messages are brought to you directly from CEOs and business thinkers to help build healthier companies, better businesses, and better lives for both you and your employees.

 

## [Running A Profitable and Efficient Business](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode63)

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**Rich Armstrong, President at the Great Game of Business, **discusses our Great Game Conference highlighting stories from our All Star companies who used The Game to thrive during the pandemic. How using High-Involvement Planning can help you better position your business for the future, and how Great Game practices can improve the productivity of the workforce to combat the current labor shortage.<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/culture-committees/id1525160431?i=1000516942088>

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## [Planning for the Challenges of the Future | Podcast #59](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode59)

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**Jack Stack, President and CEO at SRC Holdings,** discusses how the Great Game of Business' living lab SRC Holdings, is using the Game to help get through the current cycle, what Jack sees as the future for SRC Holdings, and trends or concerns we should all be watching out for in 2022.

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## [Steering Clear of Entitlement](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode56)

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**Darein Gandall, President at Cisco-Eagle, **joins to talk about how Cisco-Eagle is careful not to be money drunk, why huddles are so important to their team, and how Minigames have helped to get them through the pandemic.<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/culture-committees/id1525160431?i=1000516942088>

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## [The 29th Annual Great Game of Business Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode55)

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**Jack Stack, President and CEO of SRC Holdings, **talks with Rich and Steve about what you can expect at The 29th Annual Great Game of Business Conference.<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/culture-committees/id1525160431?i=1000516942088>

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## [Planning for the Future with Jack Stack - Rewind](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode25-1)

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***Jack Stack, President and CEO of SRC Holdings Corp, **talks about breaking down the wall between CEOs and employees, the importance of having a plan in place that allows for balance in life, and understanding reality that could help eliminate as much future pain as possible.*<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-25-planning-for-the-future-with-jack-stack/id1525160431?i=1000507432532>

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### [Episode 25 - February 2, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode25)

## [Planning for the Future with Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode25)

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***Jack Stack, President and CEO of SRC Holdings Corp, ***shares why every CEO should value competitive data, build strategy with input from all levels of their organization, and how to use this information to plan for the future.<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-25-planning-for-the-future-with-jack-stack/id1525160431?i=1000507432532>

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### [EP 24 - January 26, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode24)

## [Snakes, Bullies & Weasels and How they are Holding Back your Success!](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode24)

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***Merrill Crawford, President/CEO of Charlie's Plumbing, Inc.,*** talks about her journey to where she is now. Crawford also shares how to spot the snakes, bullies and weasels so they do not stop you from being successful. <https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-24-snakes-bullies-weasels-how-they-are-holding-back/id1525160431?i=1000506612853>

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## About The Podcast

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The Great Game of Business has partnered with [21 Hats](https://21hats.com/) to bring the 21 Hats Podcast to all entrepreneurs in The Great Game of Business community! Hosted by Loren Feldman, this podcast offers real-world business insight. Tune in to stay up to date on today's business issues, hear real stories about organizational challenges leaders are facing, and take away strategies CEOs are using in the business world today. When you subscribe, you'll receive a weekly email notification of this podcast. Plus, receive a message any time a new podcast episode is published on The Great Game of Business "Change the Game Podcast."

 

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