--- title: The Change the Game Podcast | engagement description: engagement | The Change the Game Podcast for The Great Game of Business --- [![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2020/Home/GGOB%20logo%20(1).png) ](https://www.greatgame.com/) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/HamMenuBlack.png) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/CloseButton.png) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training ](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) - [Community Membership](https://www.greatgame.com/membership-purchase) - [Store](https://ggob.myshopify.com/) - [FAQ](https://www.greatgame.com/faqs) - [Become a Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/internal-coach) - [Have Us Speak at Your Event](https://www.greatgame.com/ggobspeakers) - [Trusted Partners](https://www.greatgame.com/trusted-partners) - [Search](https://www.greatgame.com/site-search) ## **![GGOB + 21 Hats-1](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png?width=250&height=81&name=GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png) **   ## **About Our Podcasts** Podcasts for entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders. These messages are brought to you directly from CEOs and business thinkers to help build healthier companies, better businesses, and better lives for both you and your employees.   ## [Planning for the Challenges of the Future | Podcast #33](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode33) ![Tom DeSimone](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Tom%20DeSimone.jpg) *Tom DeSimone, Director at Prairie Capital Advisors, Inc*, joins to share the shifts his team witnessed during the pandemic, and how focusing on 2021 and not 2020 to ensure stability in your company. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/90ae7d01-7698-46a7-9639-560fe6150fe8.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/90ae7d01-7698-46a7-9639-560fe6150fe8) ### [Episode 32 - March 23, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode32) ## [Employee Appreciation](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode32) ![Krisi Schell](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Schell_Krisi%20author%20photo.jpg) *Krisi Schell, Executive VP of HR at SRC*, joins to talk about different reward initiatives that can show appreciation to employees and shares why some don't achieve the desired outcome. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/5fbc2bff-e8cd-4a5f-b1c5-fcfbad415595.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/5fbc2bff-e8cd-4a5f-b1c5-fcfbad415595) ### [Episode 31 - March 16, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode31) ## [Jack Stack's 10-Year Vision for SRC](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode31) ![Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Greatgame_Feb2017/Image/Stack-047-140x140%20(1).jpg) ***Jack Stack, President and CEO of SRC Holdings Corp, **shares his vision for SRC and what he believes the economy will look like in the coming years*. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/56d51ee3-bd84-4183-a903-e97781891272.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/56d51ee3-bd84-4183-a903-e97781891272) ### [Episode 30 - March 9, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode30) ## [The Evolution of the Small Giants Community Part 2](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode30) ![Hamsa Daher](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Hamsa_Daher%20author%20photo.jpg) ***Hamsa Daher, Executive Director of Small Giants Community, ***talks with Steve and Rich about how she got involved with the Small Giants Community, the core values of the community and how people are connected within the community. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/51fb6ed9-d252-4574-9f08-686aae3ac946.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/51fb6ed9-d252-4574-9f08-686aae3ac946) ### [Episode 29 - March 2, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode29) ## [The Evolution of the Small Giants Community](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode29) ![Paul Spiegelman](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Paul-Headshot-200x300.jpg) ***Paul Spiegelman, co-founder of Small Giants Community, ***talks with Rich and Steve about the evolution of the Small Giants Community and bringing together entrepreneurs who lead with purpose and value. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/162a82d4-35f8-4b90-a5a3-41e7e3232618.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/162a82d4-35f8-4b90-a5a3-41e7e3232618) ### [Episode 28 - February 23, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode28) ## [Scaling Your Business with guest co-host Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode28) ![Martin Babinec](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/MBabinec%20author%20photo.jpg) ***Martin Babinec, author, ***continues his discussion with Jack Stack as they talk about scaling your business through creative collisions and referral by trusted sources. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/3c311f29-39fb-4e74-af65-36f2bb2e58fd.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/3c311f29-39fb-4e74-af65-36f2bb2e58fd) ### [Episode 27 - February 16, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode27) ## [How To Give Your Business Value with guest co-host Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode27) ![Martin Babinec](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/MBabinec%20author%20photo.jpg) ***Martin Babinec, author, ***discusses with Jack Stack how common values, predictability, and transparency can add value to your business. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/6c8c85c8-3cc8-4ce6-abd9-7efbea9fee0d.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/6c8c85c8-3cc8-4ce6-abd9-7efbea9fee0d) ### [EP 24 - January 26, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode24) ## [Snakes, Bullies & Weasels and How they are Holding Back your Success!](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode24) ![Merrill Crawford](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Merrill%20Crawford%20author%20image.jpg) ***Merrill Crawford, President/CEO of Charlie's Plumbing, Inc.,*** talks about her journey to where she is now. Crawford also shares how to spot the snakes, bullies and weasels so they do not stop you from being successful.  [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/a3c32b47-2f1d-4e41-b1aa-6eb928f14cb1.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/a3c32b47-2f1d-4e41-b1aa-6eb928f14cb1) ### [EP 23 - January 22, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode23) ## [Adapting The Game In A Service Company](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode23) ![Aimee Woodall](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/_Gathering%202019/2019%20Speaker%20Headshots/Woodall_Aimee.jpg) ***Aimee Woodall, the CEO of The Black Sheep Agency, ***talks with us about how impactful adapting the game in a service company can be. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/2008c576-dfba-465b-99ac-de9c838d60c8.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/2008c576-dfba-465b-99ac-de9c838d60c8) ### [Episode 22 - January 15, 2021](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode22) ## [Capitalism: Where Do We Go From Here](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode22) ![Bo Burlingham](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Bo%20Burlingham%20author%20photo.jpg) ***Author, Bo Burlingham******,* **talks about how he got involved with the Great Game, the role capitalism plays in society, and how a Marxist becomes a capitalist.  [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/b0218e6a-cb4e-4883-9197-77a7468f7d69.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/b0218e6a-cb4e-4883-9197-77a7468f7d69) [All posts](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/all) [Next](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/tag/engagement/page/2) ## About The Podcast ![GGOB + 21 Hats-1](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png?width=400&height=129&name=GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png) The Great Game of Business has partnered with [21 Hats](https://21hats.com/) to bring the 21 Hats Podcast to all entrepreneurs in The Great Game of Business community! 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