--- title: The Change the Game Podcast | Transparency (2) description: Transparency | The Change the Game Podcast for The Great Game of Business (2) --- [![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2020/Home/GGOB%20logo%20(1).png) ](https://www.greatgame.com/) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/HamMenuBlack.png) ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/CloseButton.png) - What Do We Do? ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [What We Do](https://www.greatgame.com/what-is-great-game-business) - [Who We Are](https://www.greatgame.com/about-great-game-business) - [Our Process](https://www.greatgame.com/about/our-process) - [Meet The Team](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-team) - [Why Choose Great Game?](https://www.greatgame.com/why-choose-great-game) - Resources ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Free Tools](https://www.greatgame.com/diy-resources) - [Great Game GO](https://www.greatgame.com/community) - [Blog](https://www.greatgame.com/blog) - [Podcast](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast) - [Bonus Plan Design](https://www.greatgame.com/bonus-plan-design) - [Books](https://www.greatgame.com/books/3books) - [Videos](https://www.greatgame.com/videos) - [Testimonials and Case Studies](https://www.greatgame.com/case-studies/industry-display) - Events ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Great Game® Conference](https://www.greatgame.com/conference-2026) - [Discover the Game: Free Intro](https://www.greatgame.com/introductory-workshop) - [Great Game® Experience Workshop](https://www.greatgame.com/great-game-experience-workshop) - [Leading the Game Cohort](https://www.greatgame.com/leading-the-game) - [See All Events](https://www.greatgame.com/event-dates) - Coaching ![](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Templates-2021/DownArrowBlueLarger.svg) - [Get A Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/coaching) - [Meet the Coaches](https://www.greatgame.com/meet-the-coaches) - [Training ](https://www.greatgame.com/trainings) - [Community Membership](https://www.greatgame.com/membership-purchase) - [Store](https://ggob.myshopify.com/) - [FAQ](https://www.greatgame.com/faqs) - [Become a Coach](https://www.greatgame.com/internal-coach) - [Have Us Speak at Your Event](https://www.greatgame.com/ggobspeakers) - [Trusted Partners](https://www.greatgame.com/trusted-partners) - [Search](https://www.greatgame.com/site-search) ## **![GGOB + 21 Hats-1](https://www.greatgame.com/hs-fs/hubfs/GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png?width=250&height=81&name=GGOB%20+%2021%20Hats-1.png) **   ## **About Our Podcasts** Podcasts for entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders. These messages are brought to you directly from CEOs and business thinkers to help build healthier companies, better businesses, and better lives for both you and your employees.   ## [Ownership Transition Does Not Happen Overnight](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode68) ![Prairie Capital Advisors](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Prairie_Logo_RGB.png) **Tom DeSimone and Hillary Hughes, Directors at Prairie Capital Advisors, **discuss ways to transition ownership of a business to the employees, the signs that it might be time to start thinking about transitioning, and when is the best time to start planning. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/0ed6f951-7b58-4652-8327-bd57cdc58ccd.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/0ed6f951-7b58-4652-8327-bd57cdc58ccd) ## [Inspiring Everyone to Build Their Dreams](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode67) ![Liz Wilder](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/_Gathering%202019/2019%20Speaker%20Headshots/Wilder_Elizabeth.jpg) **Liz Wilder, President at Anthony Wilder Design/Build **gives a heartfelt talk on inspiring others to build their dreams and weathering the storm during a recession by using every single measure to save every single job. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/2214dd17-3910-40c8-b3e8-3b17cb221273.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/2214dd17-3910-40c8-b3e8-3b17cb221273) ## [The Power of Purpose](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode66) ![Clark Gey](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Canva%20images/Canva%20Design%20DAEv56-4WUs.png) **Clark Gey, President of Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, **discusses how fairness and equality are not the same thing, why you should not read entitlements in your company, and the power of purpose. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/b3be23a3-9716-4471-9113-6e655543a057.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/b3be23a3-9716-4471-9113-6e655543a057) ## [Planning is Essential for Growth and Success](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode65) ![Casey Hildebrandt](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Canva%20images/Canva%20Design%20DAEvQgh8Lmg.png) **Casey Hildebrandt, Owner of Hildebrandt Tree Tech, ** tells Steve how being a Great Game company helped to calm the storm, built his confidence as a leader and allowed him to not carry the entire burden of the business alone. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/7eda06bf-40fa-405b-9937-deca4f893822.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/7eda06bf-40fa-405b-9937-deca4f893822) ## [Change The Game - Ch. 7 Unleashing the Creatives](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode64) ![Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Greatgame_Feb2017/Image/Stack-047-140x140%20(1).jpg) **Jack Stack, President and CEO at SRC Holdings, **reads chapter 7 from Change The Game. This chapter shares a story of a struggling theatre's turnaround just by opening the books and taking a closer look at the financials. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/735411c2-ad45-4eef-b8e4-94df33b8766f.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/735411c2-ad45-4eef-b8e4-94df33b8766f) ## [Running A Profitable and Efficient Business](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode63) ![Rich Armstrong](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/2018%20Staff%20Photos/Rich%20Armstrong.jpg) **Rich Armstrong, President at the Great Game of Business, **discusses our Great Game Conference highlighting stories from our All Star companies who used The Game to thrive during the pandemic. How using High-Involvement Planning can help you better position your business for the future, and how Great Game practices can improve the productivity of the workforce to combat the current labor shortage. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/f6437738-7824-4fa1-b6c1-3fa0da6f2840.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/f6437738-7824-4fa1-b6c1-3fa0da6f2840) ## [ESOP Roundtable 3](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode62) ![The Great Game™ Team](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/GGOB-logo-author.jpg) This episode of the Change The Game Podcast is from a previously recorded live roundtable event with three Great Game of Business practitioners sharing their stories with the focus: ESOP As A Legacy. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/bf7c4120-4f77-4107-baf8-b3e821f4c1b7.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/bf7c4120-4f77-4107-baf8-b3e821f4c1b7) ## [Open-Book Management from an Employee-Owner Perspective](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode61) ![Rob Zicaro](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/rob%20zicaro.jpg) **Rob Zicaro, ESOP advocate, **talks about open-book management through the eyes of an employee owner. [![Click to Listen](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/2628288/3023c9c6-8d06-4884-843e-2541d9a0a305.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/2628288/3023c9c6-8d06-4884-843e-2541d9a0a305) ## [One Goal, One Vision, One Team](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode60) ![Mike Keesee](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Mike%20Keesee%20author%20photo-1.png) **Mike Keesee, President/CEO at Total Solutions Group, **discuss with Steve and Rich how playing The Great Game of Business has helped his team make it through the last year, what is his win often theory and what he sees for the future of Total Solutions Group.   ## [Planning for the Challenges of the Future | Podcast #59](https://www.greatgame.com/podcast/episode59) ![Jack Stack](https://www.greatgame.com/hubfs/Greatgame_Feb2017/Image/Stack-047-140x140%20(1).jpg) **Jack Stack, President and CEO at SRC Holdings,** discusses how the Great Game of Business' living lab SRC Holdings, is using the Game to help get through the current cycle, what Jack sees as the future for SRC Holdings, and trends or concerns we should all be watching out for in 2022. 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